mullen, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, the u.s. military, they have continued to brief him on these developments as they move forward. the next step, of course, will be for the arrival of the remains of those who have been killed at dover air force base, that is now where for so many years, we have seen these very somber ceremonies of flag covered caskets come home, there will be quite a number of them coming in the next few days, joe. >> barbara starr, thanks very much for that, a very sad day in washington, d.c. and around the country as we look for more details on that helicopter crash in afghanistan. thanks, barbara. a little while ago i talked to a retire u.s. army general who told me the impact on the special operations cannot be overstated. >> my recollection, there are probably seven s.e.a.l. teams in the country, i don't know the exact number in each s.e.a.l. team, but probably not more than a couple of hundred at most.